Just got inspired again to rite something after hearing a story from a man whos one of ma Dad's acquaintances.That man is from some place in karnataka. Actually what that is interesting about him is that his mother tongue is konkani and surprisingly hes a Muslim.He always accept that hes a konkani and hes proud to speak in that language.so what i am upto is a bit related to muslims learning konkani.
I had heard once that once when the T.D.school management(where i did ma schooling) approached a minister (who was a Muslim.i would not like to specify his name) for teaching konkani in school played a cheap trick not to make it a subject.His explanation was that there were lots of muslim students studying there and they find it irrespectable to talk in such a culture less language. Let me tell u guys..it was not my muslim friends who dint want to learn konkani but the bloody vote bank politics played by this minister what led into a huge struggle in accepting konkani as a subject. He was convincing muslims in this area that hindu culture is going to be forced on them. How could be a language be Hinduistic or something .Ridiculous...If it was like that, the guy from karnataka doesnt have any complaints ..y.???.just think guys.
Now the second thing. I would Like to blame All the christian missionaries who advise their people to vote for a SECULAR PARTY. I should first say that They dont know whats the meaning of secular themselves. These people preach that "there is only one god and believe in him only and that's jesus."(which i came to see from a board erected at EKM south railway station).Is that the way how it should be taught. In india each and everyone has there own right to believe in whichever god they want. Why should you preach like this after talking A to Z of secularism. People who strongly believe in secularism would never preach like this..And Guys am not hurting any of the religious sentiments of my christian friends. Am just trying to say A FEW missionaries ie a very few are trying to show both sides of a coin at the same time.ND i would request my friends not to hear most of the opinions of these people.They are most probably doing it for their own interests.Guess you know what they are. India is a democratic country and Everyone has their own right to vote for whom they want. Dont get misled by some religious leaders who want u to for a party or so.(its just for their own interests, i should also blame a few hindu and muslim organisations also for doing like that,all know which are they).
i Wolud like to conclude it now since i want Your responses on whether i should continue or not..
Guys work for our country irrespective of our religion. And no religion is superior to other. Each has their own guds and sins. Its our nation.what we like v can follow. so jaago guys..Speak against these idiots who try to spoil the harmony in our country by dividing our country using religion.
JAI HIND ....
' i should also blame a few hindu '
ReplyDeletegood post, but you did not write about how RSS (hindu org which i am a part of) divides people ?
can u show me a flex by any hindu org which says hinduism is only true path, all else is wrong?
ReplyDeletebut the fact remains everywhere xtian missionaries and pentacosts do live believing that.4 minutes ago
do you know about the origin of the word FUNDAMENTALISM ?
in oxford dict it is given as belief that whatever written in bible is true and unquestionable.seconds ago
also every puranas and even in gita, sri krishna says, 'what i ve told is told,its upto u to criticise and imbibe".. where else can u c dis secular statements..
i strongly support your blog and ideas and request you to continue.....
ReplyDeleteyse wot u said is very simple and practical things.....
lets come together to build up a new INDIA
i dint mean RSS frnd.der r many orgs lyk SNDP n al who makes deir ppl vote for a single party of their needs..nd i dint blame hindu religion for not being secular.v kno hinduism is only a way to beautiful life not a religion which imposes one to do things forcefully
ReplyDeleteokai harish the point being... the essence of religion is actually a few basic points related to leading a life of social harmony... i hope u understand wot i mean...
ReplyDeletesecondly u write a whole pragraph bout a muslim politician and christian missionaries... y dont u write a whole paragraph on wot a narendra modi has been n is doing or wot a thakre family has been and is doing... that requires a whole friggin page... so dun gimme da point that ur blog is not pro hinduistic...
thirdly... if u are so not bothered bout religion and u strongly believe in one god... y are u bothered that a bunch of christian missionaries are puttin up a board n changin people into their own religion... are you scared your religion will loose its hold or strength or wotever? n wot u said bout a board being hoisted has nothin to do with secularism!!!
fourthly... u talk bout christian missionaries being curropt... how saintly dya think da pujaris in a guruvayoor temple or a sabarimala temple are? those people do nothin but say a few mantras and stick a bundle o money under their asses... wot else hav u seen these so called priests been doing? they are more like a polar bear who sleeps for six months and eats for a da rest six...
fifthly... id say atleast da christian missionaries are working towards some social causes... temme one organisation wich belongs to da hindu or islamic community that works towards social causes such as education and general welfare??? atleast if they are curropt some of it is being used for da good of da society!!!
sixthly... @ashok... mayb ur not too much into hindutva... but ask a peson who preaches hindutva... they wil say hinduism is da only "so-called" true path...(wich i wonder wich religion does preach that "true path" or wotever)
seventhly... @ashok... temme sumthin... how many people actually criticise and imbibe wot is written in gita... leave alone that... how many o them actualy knw wots written in the gita!!!??
religion is something wich makes people blindly believe in ideals without questioning!!! i dont blame religion at all... its coz o a lazy indian community...
i respect all forms o religion... it tells you an ideal way of leading a peaceful life... but yes it is an "ideal" way... u have to figure out da actual way... take da gud things from wot ur holy book says... rather than jus reading it out in front o an idol n hoping coz o this ur sins will b forgiven...
lastly... i am brought up in a hindu brahmin family... so dun think of me as a christian missionary... :P
"temme one organisation wich belongs to da hindu or islamic community that works towards social causes such as education and general welfare???"
ReplyDelete1. sathya sai
2 amrithananda mai
3. tirupathi devasthanams
4. mutts of haridwar.
5. vishwa hindu parishad
6. RSS
7. list is endless and i can not help if u can not see them working.
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ReplyDelete" hinduism is only a way to beautiful life not a religion which imposes one to do things forcefully"
ReplyDelete@ashwin aryan do you disagree with this ?
da first 3 options were understandable... 4th one made me laugh (coz o da english word mutt :P... take it as a joke )... 5th n 6th blew me away...
ReplyDeletedude... wen u put my name in caps n try n intimidate me... atleast come up wid a valid point!!! :P
n u stil havnt replied to da points ive pointed out tya... :o
@ashok... i dont disagree.. but temme somethin... u guys talk bout ideals n was to life given in da hindu religious texts or wotever texts u wanna call it... isnt it da same thing in other holy books??
ReplyDeletesecondly... how many of them actualy understand those ideals??
thirdly... does the hindu ideals... make hindu people beter.. n more civilised... i completely beg to differ...
correction... ways to live life.. :D
ReplyDeletesorry for my bad english, i am not so good at english!!!
ReplyDelete"talk bout ideals n was to life given in da hindu religious texts or wotever texts u wanna call it... isnt it da same thing in other holy books?? "
ok then why there is conversion, why islam rule demolished many temples?
@Ashwin : m nt afraid of christian missionaries erectin boards lik dat. bt i jus wantd to clarify a point dat dey dnt desrve 2 use d wrd secular(one of d meanings is dat dey can accept ppl for wat dey r irrespective of religion ,caste or creeds).now Y shud dey brutally harass odrs in public for not being a christian.u mite hav never come to see such a site. Bt here it is common in a few places in matttancherry.
ReplyDeleteI agree to ya point abt sabarimala priests n al..nd d fact is dat ppl who blindly follo dese priests r big fools.actually dese priests(who mite nt evn knw d meanings of matras dey pronounce) r misusing deir posns.
d 3rd tin. y i dint rite abt modi n co.i think i ll hav to kno smeting more on dose ppl b4 i cud rite.nd dat doesnt mean m pro hinduistic..u know wat ma views on religion are.
du u kno ashwin wat dese christian missionaries had done during d reign of deutch..dey had destroyed all d works here in d mattanchery palace about d medicines and lotsa othr beneficial tins wich were manuscripts.nd still u believe dat dey did a lot goood to indian society.may b dere will b sometin gud..Bt wat dey did in total can b compard wit wat TTD and othr gr8 orgs do in one day.dats it.
nd if dese ppl followd wat deir holy books said dey wudnt hav destroyd so many cultures al across d globe..fortunately d indian culture was not to b erased out by these ppl lik d red indian or d aborigins of OZ.nd dey say dat india is a land of serpents n al nly coz christianity has no roots in india.
i will continue later for nw dis is enuf :D
ashwin: narendra modi has been n is doing ?
ReplyDeleteashok: narendra modi is doing a great work in gujrat. even the leftist acknowledge his work.
yes, i kno u r talking abt 2002, for that i may quote the man himself " for every action there will be equal and opposite reaction" it is universal truth and can happen any where.
ashwin:harish blog is pro hinduistic...
ashok : what is the problem in supporting a way of life that is followed by majority of indians? hope any thing hindu is not haraam in this country as of now!!
ashwin:are you scared your religion will loose its hold or strength or wotever?
ashok: no!!!!! we fear we will have to see further partition of country, kashmir,mizoram,nagaland like crisis.
ashwin: "id say atleast da christian missionaries are working towards some social causes... temme one organisation wich belongs to da hindu or islamic community that works towards social causes such as education and general welfare???"
ashok:just go to website of vhp and rss and see what they are doing!!! i can not prove it for you.. btw i will send a mail by pravin togadia explaining works done by hindu org to harish. he may forward it to you. plus lots of money that come to guruvayoor and sabarimala goed to charity purpose by leftist also to get secular muslims to mecca..
ashwin: ask a peson who preaches hindutva... they wil say hinduism is da only "so-called" true path.."
ashok: sorry i do not subscirbe to ur thought abt hindutva and us. hindutva is other name of secularism or even more than that, even athiests r given the status of muni(saints) here, not like west xtians who killed galileo and scientists.
ashwin: how many o them actualy knw wots written in the gita!!!??
i can not help if u do not understand gita and hinduism and think all are like you.read gita, thats all i can say..
ashwin: am brought up in a hindu brahmin family... so dun think of me as a christian missionary... :P
ashok: for this i may quote chanakya : greatest tragedy of a race is not that they are attacked, but the ignorance that they are being attacked. i know u rnot from missionary,but it seems u r more anti hindu from ur comments questioning credibility of hinduism.
thank you for ur patience, you may read me at my blog ashokmkini.wordpress.com , thank you.. be a good friend
harish:Y shud dey brutally harass odrs in public
ReplyDeleteashok: where and what, can u explain, wanna know wat type of harrassment:?
harish : I agree to ya point abt sabarimala priests n al..nd d fact is dat ppl who blindly follo dese priests r big fools..
ashok : people go to sabarimala to see ayyappa not priests. there r bad things everywherre, even bad engineers and bad doctors,bad scientists, bad athiests. it is not fair to generalise.
harish: actually dese priests(who mite nt evn knw d meanings of matras dey pronounce) r misusing deir posns:
ashok: there are many priests in many temples who can recite vedas and manthras perfectly. do not genralise.
@ ashok : i have clarified dat dere r nly a few priests lik dat.
ReplyDeletenw abt harassment.
dnt u kno dat guys frm panayapilly r targetd by missionaries n dey r made to convert to christianity by forcin em .havnt u hrd of d news dat a few monts b4 a family was targeted by gundas nd dey destroyd deir house nd askd dem to convert or to suffer
wel, if to say abt the political leaders who preach religion, they do t only for their political interests. not cos they really believ in t. its sort of divide n rule policy adopted by the british to weaken the freedom struggle.
ReplyDeletewht i feel is, those who really believ in sum religion, wil respect othr religion also. think abt d kids, who dont knw nythin abt religion. for them, d othr kids in their cls r just frnds. they nevr care abt religion or nythin. thn why do such thought grow in our minds as we grow up?
n we shud b proud of our constitutn which allows us to follow ny religion
der is just 1 religion, mankind. if we r ready to accept t, n consider evry othr individual as frm one race calld human being, den no 1 can separate as, which evr religion we follow. be t ny political leaders or ny religious missionaries. we thus can unite ourselves
"dnt u kno dat guys frm panayapilly r targetd by missionaries n dey r made to convert to christianity by forcin em .havnt u hrd of d news dat a few monts b4 a family was targeted by gundas nd dey destroyd deir house nd askd dem to convert or to suffer"
ReplyDeleteoh k... i did not know though i think heard about it... but i had heard they gave money and converted them.. anyways i will discuss this issue with sangh. thank you for info.
@rekha kini dear sister, tell me which all polititians do like that?
ReplyDeleterekha : divide n rule policy adopted by the british to weaken the freedom struggle.
ashok: do u think that india was only inder british rule and we got freedom from them only? what about mughal rule, was not it invasion and attack on hindu culture? do you know how many temples were demolished during that time? indian nuslims are just made crazy by anti india forces!! but why they fall prey to them?
rekha : wht i feel is, those who really believ in sum religion, wil respect othr religion also
ashok: sure, i agree, but this great concept was destroyed ever since the fundamentalist islamists and evengelists entered this sacred and of ours.
rekha: n we shud b proud of our constitutn which allows us to follow ny religion
ashok: i am proud of it. But why only india is secular, while america, england and great nations of the world are not secular. why we aRE FORCED TO BE SECULAR,that too sacrificing our interests?
@ashok temples demolished temples demolished when u ppl will stop saying that..dont u think its all becos of hindu's what they were doing at that time..hindu's r not untied,whose prob is that y u were fighting with cast..becos of that many ppl ruled india..its all prob on hindu's.if u want to punish those ancestors go to hell r heaven n then punish them
ReplyDeleten Harish congrats for ur post..keep going
ReplyDelete@GUNA exactly my point.... HINDUS Are NOT UNITED NOW TO RECTIFY THE MISTAKES THAT THIER ANCESTORS DID.... :p . THAT IS MY POINT... MISTAKES NEED TO BE CORRECTED. BLAME GAME WILL NOT HELP
ReplyDeleteI believe that all religion leads to God..... There may be people who argue that one is better than the other...... They are just 'ignorant fools'..... Good work da..... will love to c more...... stay neutral as always bcoz dat is d ryt way in dis matter ;-)
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